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	<title>Comments on: 1st draft of Tower District streetscape design</title>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://archop.org/2009/07/1st-draft-tower-streetscape/comment-page-1/#comment-4767</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which direction will the angled parking face? Many municipalities are converting their angled parking so that vehicles must reverse in. It&#039;s much safer than having to reverse out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which direction will the angled parking face? Many municipalities are converting their angled parking so that vehicles must reverse in. It&#8217;s much safer than having to reverse out.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right...traffic circles will look nice with hungry people asking for money!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right&#8230;traffic circles will look nice with hungry people asking for money!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://archop.org/2009/07/1st-draft-tower-streetscape/comment-page-1/#comment-4669</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE Fresno and always said &quot;this would look good if...&quot; And &quot;you should visit the museum.&quot; &quot;This is going on today in town...&quot; Stuff like that.  
Once again, do we really NEED to fix up the way Tower District looks right now or do we just WANT to fix it?  Because there&#039;s a difference and I just can&#039;t stop but think of the people who really WANT help because they really NEED help.  And the city&#039;s money could be going more there considering what we&#039;re going through right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE Fresno and always said &#8220;this would look good if&#8230;&#8221; And &#8220;you should visit the museum.&#8221; &#8220;This is going on today in town&#8230;&#8221; Stuff like that.<br />
Once again, do we really NEED to fix up the way Tower District looks right now or do we just WANT to fix it?  Because there&#8217;s a difference and I just can&#8217;t stop but think of the people who really WANT help because they really NEED help.  And the city&#8217;s money could be going more there considering what we&#8217;re going through right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergio</title>
		<link>http://archop.org/2009/07/1st-draft-tower-streetscape/comment-page-1/#comment-4668</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok...first of all.  I was one of the people who would voice out all this great improvements being done to Fresno, but today I realized something....
I hate to be a party pooper here...but we just saw what happened to the met where 28 million dollars of remodeling were used...15 of those used were given by the city.  And now the city is in more debt.  Which means that they can&#039;t pay the state.  So now the state&#039;s in more debt.  And that means the country is in more debt.  And that means we&#039;re in debt and the situation is not getting any better. 

So my whole point here is, do we really need that right now?  I mean, I love clothes and fashion and like to keep my closet updated, but right now my pocket is not in a position for that.  So I stick with what I can; well, more like what I NEED and not what I WANT.  Getting my drift here.  The money that will be used to make Tower District look nice can be used to make people feel nice.  It can be used in so many more ways than this. 

Do we really want another Fresno MET occurrence happening just yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;first of all.  I was one of the people who would voice out all this great improvements being done to Fresno, but today I realized something&#8230;.<br />
I hate to be a party pooper here&#8230;but we just saw what happened to the met where 28 million dollars of remodeling were used&#8230;15 of those used were given by the city.  And now the city is in more debt.  Which means that they can&#8217;t pay the state.  So now the state&#8217;s in more debt.  And that means the country is in more debt.  And that means we&#8217;re in debt and the situation is not getting any better. </p>
<p>So my whole point here is, do we really need that right now?  I mean, I love clothes and fashion and like to keep my closet updated, but right now my pocket is not in a position for that.  So I stick with what I can; well, more like what I NEED and not what I WANT.  Getting my drift here.  The money that will be used to make Tower District look nice can be used to make people feel nice.  It can be used in so many more ways than this. </p>
<p>Do we really want another Fresno MET occurrence happening just yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Waterhouse</title>
		<link>http://archop.org/2009/07/1st-draft-tower-streetscape/comment-page-1/#comment-3363</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Waterhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an earlier posting, mizsydney mentioned the vacant lot at Van Ness and Alhambra, and its possibilities as green space.
 
Unless circumstances have changed, the owner (Mike Weil) still has plans to build commercial space there. There&#039;s been a huge stumbling block to that--the lot (which used to be occupied by a house the size of the one currently used by Fresno Wedding Chapel) is zoned for multiple-family housing, not commercial.
 
A local non-profit investigated the possibility of leasing the lot (since the City has no plans to rezone it) and turning it into a pocket park several years ago. The owner was less than excited about the idea. Last I heard, he is not interested in selling either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an earlier posting, mizsydney mentioned the vacant lot at Van Ness and Alhambra, and its possibilities as green space.</p>
<p>Unless circumstances have changed, the owner (Mike Weil) still has plans to build commercial space there. There&#8217;s been a huge stumbling block to that&#8211;the lot (which used to be occupied by a house the size of the one currently used by Fresno Wedding Chapel) is zoned for multiple-family housing, not commercial.</p>
<p>A local non-profit investigated the possibility of leasing the lot (since the City has no plans to rezone it) and turning it into a pocket park several years ago. The owner was less than excited about the idea. Last I heard, he is not interested in selling either.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://archop.org/2009/07/1st-draft-tower-streetscape/comment-page-1/#comment-3348</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the initial constraints about what area the money would be used in and how far one-way traffic stretches on both Fulton and Van Ness (Shields to Toulumne), as well as the issues of reworking the 180 interchange, I would think we&#039;d be talking about millions of dollars here rather than hundreds of thousands.

Or are people just suggesting two way traffic in tower?  Sounds like a hell of a mess; a lot more than traffic circles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the initial constraints about what area the money would be used in and how far one-way traffic stretches on both Fulton and Van Ness (Shields to Toulumne), as well as the issues of reworking the 180 interchange, I would think we&#8217;d be talking about millions of dollars here rather than hundreds of thousands.</p>
<p>Or are people just suggesting two way traffic in tower?  Sounds like a hell of a mess; a lot more than traffic circles.</p>
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		<title>By: mizsydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>mizsydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first impressions:  

Van Ness and Olive - that lovely house already has the bus stop practically on its front porch.  how on earth can they widen that sidewalk further and leave that poor home any kind of front?  or will the bus stop be relocated to their front room?

two-way streets - no thanks, there are enough idiots on the one-way streets.  the streets could certainly be improved!  but NOT just by changing the signs.

and yet again, I love how everything STOPS just south of Olive, while the Tower suddenly extends almost to Shields Ave. (&quot;North Tower&quot;?  pul-ease.  I was living here when almost everyone north of Fern claimed to live in the Fresno High area lest they be tainted with the undesirable Tower District brush.)  I guess we are good enough to have our lives disrupted by parking and traffic and trash pickup for Tower events, but not quite good enough for neighborhood improvements.  we don&#039;t even rate the fancy Tower-style street signs down here.

how about REAL issues - crime, vandalism, the hundreds of halfway homes plunked among resident families because, well, let&#039;s face it, this isn&#039;t Perrin and Champlain.  these people are already used to having those types of people around.  how about the fact that even with the police dressing station smack on Broadway, graffiti and auto break-ins abound.  we live less than a block away and there is broken car window glass on the street almost daily, and always on the weekends.   the dressing station clutters the nearby narrow streets with parked cop cars and cops&#039; (personal) cars, and you may not realize that the cops don’t make very good neighbors.  zero deterrent factor and a lot of aggravation and traffic and poor road manners.

I’m sorry, I guess with all Will and Kiel’s marketing puffing, I was expecting more from this plan.  I&#039;m seeing the same old insubstantial fluffy surface improvements aimed solely at improving local business, again at the expense of the residents.  

there has been a lot of talk about how great a mixed-use neighborhood is.  when is it the residents’ turn for improvements to the neighborhood in which we have invested OUR lives, not just livelihoods?  WE actually LIVE here, ALL THE TIME.  

this plan chokes traffic, making it likely that our residential streets will have an increase in our (already too much) auto traffic.  where is the increased parking that will shift much of the event nuisances (parking, garbage, pedestrians vomiting on my front walk or beating on the door at 2 a.m. demanding to use my bathroom) from the residents to Tower business?  

how about spending money for some public restrooms?  there is certainly a need – there are too many local businesses that can’t accommodate public restrooms.   how about turning that eyesore vacant lot at Van Ness and Alhambra into a local park?  we can certainly use green space.  how about getting the methadone clinic moved to a more industrial and less residential area?  or at least somewhere with less traffic, so the junkies aren’t blocking Van Ness every morning when they stagger into the street.  

how about rules on cell towers so we don’t have two on the same block, only yards apart in our allegedly city-defined historical neighborhood?  (Planned Parenthood parking lot and the eyesore storefronts at Fulton and Belmont, and yes we registered complaints to the city about both.  obviously to no avail.  can&#039;t blame the property owners, cell tower rent payments usually exceed $1k per month.)  how cute if they made them share the same tower and made the tower look like the Tower, maybe with neon.  

how about cleaning up the corridors to and from the freeway?  I am embarrassed every time I travel up Van Ness or Fulton get off or on the freeway and when I give directions on how to get to my home I tell people to use surface streets so they don’t see the shame that is Fulton and Van Ness.  (and on a side note – how can the two-way streets accommodate the freeway ramps built for one-way traffic?  these plans are silent as to how the 180 interchange will look with two-way streets.)  as I mentioned above, it’s not just a matter of removing the one-way signs.

who is paying for this, anyway?  I know We The Taxpayers, but under what guise or pretext?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first impressions:  </p>
<p>Van Ness and Olive &#8211; that lovely house already has the bus stop practically on its front porch.  how on earth can they widen that sidewalk further and leave that poor home any kind of front?  or will the bus stop be relocated to their front room?</p>
<p>two-way streets &#8211; no thanks, there are enough idiots on the one-way streets.  the streets could certainly be improved!  but NOT just by changing the signs.</p>
<p>and yet again, I love how everything STOPS just south of Olive, while the Tower suddenly extends almost to Shields Ave. (&#8221;North Tower&#8221;?  pul-ease.  I was living here when almost everyone north of Fern claimed to live in the Fresno High area lest they be tainted with the undesirable Tower District brush.)  I guess we are good enough to have our lives disrupted by parking and traffic and trash pickup for Tower events, but not quite good enough for neighborhood improvements.  we don&#8217;t even rate the fancy Tower-style street signs down here.</p>
<p>how about REAL issues &#8211; crime, vandalism, the hundreds of halfway homes plunked among resident families because, well, let&#8217;s face it, this isn&#8217;t Perrin and Champlain.  these people are already used to having those types of people around.  how about the fact that even with the police dressing station smack on Broadway, graffiti and auto break-ins abound.  we live less than a block away and there is broken car window glass on the street almost daily, and always on the weekends.   the dressing station clutters the nearby narrow streets with parked cop cars and cops&#8217; (personal) cars, and you may not realize that the cops don’t make very good neighbors.  zero deterrent factor and a lot of aggravation and traffic and poor road manners.</p>
<p>I’m sorry, I guess with all Will and Kiel’s marketing puffing, I was expecting more from this plan.  I&#8217;m seeing the same old insubstantial fluffy surface improvements aimed solely at improving local business, again at the expense of the residents.  </p>
<p>there has been a lot of talk about how great a mixed-use neighborhood is.  when is it the residents’ turn for improvements to the neighborhood in which we have invested OUR lives, not just livelihoods?  WE actually LIVE here, ALL THE TIME.  </p>
<p>this plan chokes traffic, making it likely that our residential streets will have an increase in our (already too much) auto traffic.  where is the increased parking that will shift much of the event nuisances (parking, garbage, pedestrians vomiting on my front walk or beating on the door at 2 a.m. demanding to use my bathroom) from the residents to Tower business?  </p>
<p>how about spending money for some public restrooms?  there is certainly a need – there are too many local businesses that can’t accommodate public restrooms.   how about turning that eyesore vacant lot at Van Ness and Alhambra into a local park?  we can certainly use green space.  how about getting the methadone clinic moved to a more industrial and less residential area?  or at least somewhere with less traffic, so the junkies aren’t blocking Van Ness every morning when they stagger into the street.  </p>
<p>how about rules on cell towers so we don’t have two on the same block, only yards apart in our allegedly city-defined historical neighborhood?  (Planned Parenthood parking lot and the eyesore storefronts at Fulton and Belmont, and yes we registered complaints to the city about both.  obviously to no avail.  can&#8217;t blame the property owners, cell tower rent payments usually exceed $1k per month.)  how cute if they made them share the same tower and made the tower look like the Tower, maybe with neon.  </p>
<p>how about cleaning up the corridors to and from the freeway?  I am embarrassed every time I travel up Van Ness or Fulton get off or on the freeway and when I give directions on how to get to my home I tell people to use surface streets so they don’t see the shame that is Fulton and Van Ness.  (and on a side note – how can the two-way streets accommodate the freeway ramps built for one-way traffic?  these plans are silent as to how the 180 interchange will look with two-way streets.)  as I mentioned above, it’s not just a matter of removing the one-way signs.</p>
<p>who is paying for this, anyway?  I know We The Taxpayers, but under what guise or pretext?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Hansen-Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Hansen-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the traffic circles were chosen would it be possible for them to be removable such as when the Pride Parade or other events were occurring where it would be easier to navigate without the circle present?  I saw some places online where they have also had removable roundabouts/traffic circles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the traffic circles were chosen would it be possible for them to be removable such as when the Pride Parade or other events were occurring where it would be easier to navigate without the circle present?  I saw some places online where they have also had removable roundabouts/traffic circles.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Waterhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Waterhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some historical clarification....

Sideswipe collisions involving cars traveling in the same direction are considered by traffic engineers as being less damaging to human beings than head-ons. At the time Van Ness/Maroa was converted to one-way travel, 99.9% of vehicles did not have seat belts! A head-on at 30-35 miles per hour involving vehicles san seat belts was considered lethal most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some historical clarification&#8230;.</p>
<p>Sideswipe collisions involving cars traveling in the same direction are considered by traffic engineers as being less damaging to human beings than head-ons. At the time Van Ness/Maroa was converted to one-way travel, 99.9% of vehicles did not have seat belts! A head-on at 30-35 miles per hour involving vehicles san seat belts was considered lethal most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Aileen Imperatrice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aileen Imperatrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owning a business in the Tower, I travel through these streets everyday, by car and by foot and I can tell you after witnessing how the traffic and people move in this area,  2 Way Traffic would be Great!  With one ways, drivers tend to speed through and this is far more dangerous to pedestrians, bicyclists and parked cars than when people are driving in both directions down the same stretch of street.  Drivers actually tend to be more cautious when traffic is coming at them, then when they feel like they are speeding alongside others going the same direction.  I don&#039;t understand how it can be said that parked cars and the people getting out of them are in more danger with 2 way traffic when there are still 2 lanes of cars driving past them on a one way and more instances of drivers pacing with each other (which means more cars driving side by side continuing through this one way stretch) then if you have cars going in both directions (which don&#039;t pace with each other).  Furthermore, anytime you drive through a street which is narrow and there are cars parked along the street it is the Responsibility of Both the drivers and the people getting out the parked cars to look out for traffic so that doors or worse, people do not get hit.  Let&#039;s not forget that continuing with the speedier one way traffic on these streets continues to inhibit access to businesses along the way and I&#039;d think the City would want the businesses to succeed, wouldn&#039;t you?
And if even the residents are agreeing that 2 Way Traffic reduces speed, isn&#039;t this a win-win?
I&#039;ve attended both Streetscape meetings so far (and attended the ones years ago too - when we also decided 2 Way Traffic was needed), and have already been in one on one talks with the M.W. Steele group about future artistic involvement.  I hope that we can solve this 2 Way Traffic issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owning a business in the Tower, I travel through these streets everyday, by car and by foot and I can tell you after witnessing how the traffic and people move in this area,  2 Way Traffic would be Great!  With one ways, drivers tend to speed through and this is far more dangerous to pedestrians, bicyclists and parked cars than when people are driving in both directions down the same stretch of street.  Drivers actually tend to be more cautious when traffic is coming at them, then when they feel like they are speeding alongside others going the same direction.  I don&#8217;t understand how it can be said that parked cars and the people getting out of them are in more danger with 2 way traffic when there are still 2 lanes of cars driving past them on a one way and more instances of drivers pacing with each other (which means more cars driving side by side continuing through this one way stretch) then if you have cars going in both directions (which don&#8217;t pace with each other).  Furthermore, anytime you drive through a street which is narrow and there are cars parked along the street it is the Responsibility of Both the drivers and the people getting out the parked cars to look out for traffic so that doors or worse, people do not get hit.  Let&#8217;s not forget that continuing with the speedier one way traffic on these streets continues to inhibit access to businesses along the way and I&#8217;d think the City would want the businesses to succeed, wouldn&#8217;t you?<br />
And if even the residents are agreeing that 2 Way Traffic reduces speed, isn&#8217;t this a win-win?<br />
I&#8217;ve attended both Streetscape meetings so far (and attended the ones years ago too &#8211; when we also decided 2 Way Traffic was needed), and have already been in one on one talks with the M.W. Steele group about future artistic involvement.  I hope that we can solve this 2 Way Traffic issue.</p>
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